Received: from smtpgw2.bnl.gov (smtpgw2.sec.bnl.local [192.168.1.46]) by exchange.bnl.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id HF459TV6; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:50 -0500 Received: from emroute3.ornl.gov ([160.91.4.110]) by smtpgw2.bnl.gov with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 ) id 18xU4b-00089I-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:41:17 -0500 Received: from emroute3.ornl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emroute3.ornl.gov (PMDF V6.2 #30669) with ESMTP id <0HC9008EQFBRPB@emroute3.ornl.gov>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from email.cind.ornl.gov (email.cind.ornl.gov [160.91.4.92]) by emroute3.ornl.gov (PMDF V6.2 #30669) with ESMTPS id <0HC900I39EZEXV@emroute3.ornl.gov>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from email.cind.ornl.gov (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by email.cind.ornl.gov (PMDF V6.2 #30669) with ESMTP id <0HC9005EWEZ98L@email.cind.ornl.gov>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail1 (webmail.ornl.gov [160.91.4.85]) by email.cind.ornl.gov (PMDF V6.2 #30669) with ESMTPS id <0HC900B6YEYXBS@email.cind.ornl.gov>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:28:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:28:09 -0500 From: cp3 Subject: RE: Rise time for BIG kickers Sender: cp3 To: "Raparia, Deepak" , cp3 Cc: "Blaskiewicz, Michael M" , "Lee, Yong Y" , Alexei Fedotov , Jie Wei , Stuart Henderson Message-id: <3E7612D7@webmail1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=mime-boundary-interchange-3e7612d6 X-WebMail-UserID: cp3@ornl.gov X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002415 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean This is the preamble of a multipart MIME formatted message. If you are reading this text your mail system is most likely not capable of properly decoding MIME messages. To extract the contents of this message, save it to a file and then use an external MIME decoding utility. --mime-boundary-interchange-3e7612d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Deepak, Attached is the result of the BIG simulations using the 20ns and 30ns rise times. It looks like there is a difference of about 3-4% in cleaning efficiency between the two rise times. In these simulations, the kicker was modeled with a single, 0.6 mrad strength kicker, kicking in the vertical plane only. I future simulations I am going to remove the approximation of the single kicker with cummulative kicking strength, and instead model the three kickers separately. Also, I will be looking to the possibility of kicking in the horizontal direction, and in the horizontal and vertical directions together (as requested by Pete Cameron). Sarah >===== Original Message From "Raparia, Deepak" ===== >Sarah > the rise time for BIG kickers is now 30 ns, so effecting gap >cleaning will be 250-2*30=190ns >question is if we spend $40k more than rise time can be20ns, is it worth >doing it? >thanks >Deepak --mime-boundary-interchange-3e7612d6 Content-Type: application/pdf; name="BIGTurnLost.pdf" Content-disposition: attachment; filename="BIGTurnLost.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 JVBERi0xLjIKJcfsj6IKNiAwIG9iago8PC9MZW5ndGggNyAwIFIvRmlsdGVyIC9GbGF0ZURlY29k ZT4+CnN0cmVhbQp4nKWYS68cRRKF9/0rajks6MmIfC8HCdiNBNwdmoVtDPKIa8M1aP4+J16ZTTEC dSMWfQhXZ53OOvlF1E1XOpL8559vni8/X/75dTl++Hih492F0vG/S5klHVRSOp5Dt3z8aLrntuqd Z4868ZD6N5efD9I7xMeb5+OzJ9xjHnQ8fX9JB6fjU5Z/qSld20HUrmMcT8+Xf6RPnv57+fzp+OpS Km8Lps2C6LCg2i3oNfdbKHWIBRhhc3Cl7QHl5cG0eRAdHlS7B73mAQ/YgN974OUht7E8uFYPqt2D afNg19zvIfdy8pC3B27bg2nzIDo8qHYPes0DHjKfPJTlgceOpGv1oNo9mDYPds39Hnimk4e6PZSd SdfmoexMmnYP5bFMcjlnsm0PaWfStXlIO5Om3UN6LJOczpnsywPVnUnX6kG1ezBtHuya+z1QO2dy bA+0M+naPNDOpGn3QI9lkvicybk89B3JvhPZdyD7zmN/LI7jBMgbON0yevRu+sdbUyPlqFba5bsI zWogl2spZ0KrgTnbMiDaDVhZDVjVDFj5AQNjXIvvwMkB18nhQLU58LI48Ko68PL9DuRMJnPAJwcZ 7sKBanPgZXHgVXXg5fsd5NSvzRzks4M+ynIg2h1YWR1Y1RxY+QEHrV/ZHJSTg5LHCqJqc+BlceBV deDl+x0UXiehnh3MvpKo2h1YWR1Y1RxY+QEHo0US28lBrX0lUbU58LI48Ko68PL9DmppkcR+ctCo rSSqNgdeFgdeVQdevt9BSzWSOM4OeltJVO0OrKwOrGoOrPyAg1YjifPkIOYycaD6d0QWB15VB16+ 30Gnec3sREp/bAlo/bh0YvWXt3+6PNbE+p/aNI6PkvsVlOzSfmX1L15evfnl3Yf3x4fvj8/evno+ 3r0/vnz10/Gv1x8/vLx++93fuPUfflnVU94n3g3k1k+/vrw//v3r8+u3L7vv6hovP9zTQhMJwlu+ Du8h7z8eL6+ef7oZKPDSYSt//eVl1sVpkZlyXe8YZb97UKWp9Vygu2uSGw3VjHqbpgmNqFfVo+Oa QTqw94m6JEVeILI0qyyIKBlf88ZVQD38lmq6oJ0QqZ9M6ApYVDRXOphz0ZcAsI15isYyuCZX1aMP dBHSwXlU6SjdtKxZM6vmGe0KlMY6raqWlxvuRKLBQOiuOsM/j5xUy/pjmsbxZNk80czoHUn2Jyf8 rpyaaVyTMZKoLjWaVE64V0a7k+FxFjQUNB7RbRJ0M43l1Ihq1IFF0XWgDkCZRtsBKmwQxvo4tKJx LTLGRXUe0Zqgsc4ophl6Jh1sSbxNG3Jl60tiVp1A4zRUy0ehIppkORwB2R88/io9wzSIXzIn1bDi DQlxQWsoRXUZqJc5VYNNpVbXOJiNZE8IGwrdVTP2EI/RNKwjUDpsShSwluqkDYmaal7NCdQYeAHW vEnSapqyPQM3r1RV4jdX/HyRyEvlbhLVrFGT5FSJAGTG1xBhlbi2kuzFwNP1njPwBGrLW05SWY7a q0k+6iDZhoGDVUc3iRVmNol155gqwfFUTBIaSRpLNpOAO2u2Bh5T49FVopqLjsMIYiuphaxsEl2j jqpSKF9MMjpFKiHH0DEbSW+zqISpnhKHxOlWOTB8F5MFpLfxWKU2gG8AKbobZqwwq3zt7NPgmWbf HkW/8B9c/p3fA1hDdhfXVP812OoN2PIN2NoN2OYG28gLbPKEFtjGWGArCH6ADQdgga3gawtsYFeA TYIWYOO+wIZzNxbYJBMBttk22CbYFWBbk7pATtZ3sDUcrABb7bTAVhG5ABsa9QJbBU8CbKVtsHFr C2ygxwIb05q+8TEDbPjnssA2pO5gkwwH2MYN2CRMAbZ+A7aGfAXYausLbBVbE2CTrwXYqgDPwSb8 CbCB8AtsGWsG2GA6wIZHRQtsE0c9wCaPNsAmTS/ANrDdAbYu1zvYet5g63mDTX5SgK2WDbbKeYGt Yn8CbLmnBTa5fYAtw6KDjXimIBsRnrujDUmbwTboHHCDpqAbUaHAG+ENNPhGpFRTwBH+JwhHBEQ4 4lwr46A5IAdNQTlK+EmOOWgKzgFmOUCHHtOCdNA1UAddgnXQHLCjhJ/ntIMFCtxRgn/nHTTIVZo3 hBnwg25BP+gc+IPlGvwjibtP0KYHl2gmDkboGmSUk+5knHgSXaxCChmJlzRIzpEDkhPQuYGkIOw+ SJYTJPP/gaSMGRuScg+BZL6BZP5bkOwbkpgmNiT7hqTUHZKN9vSHUG9I4qEvSJYNycJ5Q1KmLYek MCUgKaF1SBYJg0OyyITlkCzysBYkJy9I6hDskOxo2AHJlvf0hxl/QxK8WJDsG5I1twVJyWJAMuPs LUjOPf3hPguSLDB0SE5wISA5UVqQhIeApOQvICnTbkCy4/wEJBsSEZAU+AckmwDTIdkEmA7JMjck 5e9rAclSNySx6QuSJNOWQRJTYQ9Icuo5IMlyeB2SnG6mvwEgBCT1zwgOyQE2BSS7ToIGyS4vWw7J Jtc7JBu2OCBZscUByYLnEpDE2guSuP+CZK5r/gNU64KkWA9IZsQ3IJllinRIKngdkvJMA5LoWAuS GOMXJPEwFiSx6QuS3NYoSCyTp0MSnWxBEiP9giQL0BySzBuSppvrDUmmDUl5VAFJkunOIUmjLEgS chWQlNkuIIlRf0GSBNQOSflTb0ASbFiQlG0NSOLBBCRJouOUJMGNYxKag5PQFIOlaYMm+k8LapJc urD51eU3JvZo2mVuZHN0cmVhbQplbmRvYmoKNyAwIG9iagoyMDUxCmVuZG9iagoxMCAwIG9iago8 PC9SNAo0IDAgUj4+CmVuZG9iagoxMSAwIG9iago8PC9SOQo5IDAgUj4+CmVuZG9iago1IDAgb2Jq Cjw8L1R5cGUvUGFnZS9NZWRpYUJveCBbMCAwIDYxMiA3OTJdCi9Sb3RhdGUgOTAvUGFyZW50IDMg MCBSCi9SZXNvdXJjZXM8PC9Qcm9jU2V0Wy9QREYgL1RleHRdCi9FeHRHU3RhdGUgMTAgMCBSCi9G b250IDExIDAgUgo+PgovQ29udGVudHMgNiAwIFIKPj4KZW5kb2JqCjMgMCBvYmoKPDwgL1R5cGUg L1BhZ2VzIC9LaWRzIFsKNSAwIFIKXSAvQ291bnQgMQo+PgplbmRvYmoKMSAwIG9iago8PC9UeXBl IC9DYXRhbG9nIC9QYWdlcyAzIDAgUgo+PgplbmRvYmoKNCAwIG9iago8PC9UeXBlL0V4dEdTdGF0 ZS9OYW1lL1I0L1RSL0lkZW50aXR5Pj4KZW5kb2JqCjkgMCBvYmoKPDwvU3VidHlwZS9UeXBlMS9C YXNlRm9udC9IZWx2ZXRpY2EvVHlwZS9Gb250L05hbWUvUjk+PgplbmRvYmoKOCAwIG9iago8PC9U eXBlL0ZvbnREZXNjcmlwdG9yL0ZvbnROYW1lL0hlbHZldGljYT4+CmVuZG9iagoyIDAgb2JqCjw8 L1Byb2R1Y2VyIChHTlUgR2hvc3RzY3JpcHQgNi41MSkKPj5lbmRvYmoKeHJlZgowIDEyCjAwMDAw MDAwMDAgNjU1MzUgZiAKMDAwMDAwMjQzNiAwMDAwMCBuIAowMDAwMDAyNjY5IDAwMDAwIG4gCjAw MDAwMDIzNzcgMDAwMDAgbiAKMDAwMDAwMjQ4NCAwMDAwMCBuIAowMDAwMDAyMjE2IDAwMDAwIG4g CjAwMDAwMDAwMTUgMDAwMDAgbiAKMDAwMDAwMjEzNiAwMDAwMCBuIAowMDAwMDAyNjEwIDAwMDAw IG4gCjAwMDAwMDI1MzkgMDAwMDAgbiAKMDAwMDAwMjE1NiAwMDAwMCBuIAowMDAwMDAyMTg2IDAw MDAwIG4gCnRyYWlsZXIKPDwgL1NpemUgMTIgL1Jvb3QgMSAwIFIgL0luZm8gMiAwIFIKPj4Kc3Rh cnR4cmVmCjI3MjEKJSVFT0YK --mime-boundary-interchange-3e7612d6--